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Perspectives on Israel and the Church: 4 Views (New Book Available)


4viewsbookA new book on an interesting topic, which I recently purchased for my Kindle:  Perspectives on Israel and the Church: 4 Views

The four views dealt with in this book: traditional (paedobaptist) Covenant Theology, classic dispensationalism, progressive dispensationalism, and a type of “New Covenant Theology” variation, the “Progressive Covenantal” view. The book consists of four essays, one from the proponent of each of the views, along with three responses to each essay, one from each of the other three scholars. The scholars are not all that well-known, though Robert Saucy for the progressive dispensational view is a well-known name.

So far I have only read through the introduction and part of the first chapter; more posts to follow concerning any interesting points in the later reading.

It would have been nice to see the Baptist Covenant Theology view included: a traditional covenantal view that does not include the “genealogical principle” often mentioned in this book. As usual, the dispensational and NCT views here only interact with the paedo-baptist type of CT, with valid points in response to the covenant-child / infant baptism theology – yet ignoring the just as well-developed Baptist covenant theology. Other sources must supply the answer to that question (Israel and the Church) for CT baptists, such as the writings of Charles Spurgeon for one view, or Pascal Denault’s “The Distinctiveness of Baptist Covenant Theology”  (which does briefly present an amillennial replacement idea, the Baptist CT “system” that rejects the literal fulfillment of the land promises).

Aside from the noted shortcoming, the book so far appears to be a good resource for general overview of this question: how do each of these “four views” think of Israel and the church and their relationship to each other?

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  1. March 19, 2015 at 12:45 pm

    Reblogged this on Talmidimblogging.

  2. Neil Schoch
    March 19, 2015 at 5:20 pm

    I don’t know much about all those viewpoints but as I have studied my Bible over many years I find it said that Israels calling is earthly. Believing Jews in this day of grace will of course partake in the Heavenly calling of the Church.
    Both groups will be together in the millennium as also in the New Heavens and New Earth.
    Israel – Earthly calling!
    Church – Heavenly calling!
    It seems simple really but I am always happy to be corrected.

    • March 20, 2015 at 10:31 am

      Thanks for the comment, Neil. That is one of these “four views,” the classic dispensational view as developed by Darby and held to by others within classic dispensationalism. One of the chapters in this book explains that view — along with responses from the other three views.

  3. March 20, 2015 at 1:23 am

    Looking forward to your thoughts on this book! Our other blogger EvangelZ is reading this book and will put a review out on this. Would love to also see what you think of it!

    • March 20, 2015 at 10:29 am

      Thanks, Slimjim! I’ll post again as I read further into it; and looking forward to the review from EvangelZ as well.

  4. March 21, 2015 at 10:12 pm

    This will be interesting. I just reread a book by G.H. Lang called The Gospel of the Kingdom. It re-examines dispensational teaching on the post pond kingdom theory and also dealing with hyperdispensationalism with a gospel to the Jews, and the gospel to the gentiles. Lang pretty much goes over John the Baptist, Jesus, Peter. Paul, and John’s teachings and points out they spoke the same gospel. The main thoughts are that they all spoke to the Jews about the Kingdom of God being present then (and now) which is the heavenly calling (Christians place ruling and reigning in the heavens). Christ was supposed to atone for sin and wanted the Jews to be born again to enter the Kingdom. They also speak of the future kingdom with Christ reigning on the Earth (and the remnant of the Jews at the time of the Lord’s coming would reign on the Earth). I actually agree with Lang a lot on prophecy and this point. Here is a link on Lang’s view of Israel, similar to dispensational teaching but revised. I am wondering if he influenced progressive dispensationalism.

    Here is a link of Lang’s book about Israel.

    http://www.themillennialkingdom.org.uk/IsraelsNationalFuture2.htm

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